Comments on: Higher education http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/ A daily doze of random thoughts, jokes and forwards Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sree http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-7526 sree Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:31:26 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-7526 //1) it should match ur aptitude… 2) the market should value it. and getting a perfect match is nearly impossible…. // You could'nt have put it better !! //1) it should match ur aptitude…
2) the market should value it.
and getting a perfect match is nearly impossible…. //
You could’nt have put it better !!

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-7521 pegasus Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:12:25 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-7521 //I meant u take a chance when u choose the institution // i would say the risk of choosing the correct stream/profession is much higher... 1) it should match ur aptitude... 2) the market should value it. and getting a perfect match is nearly impossible.... (i screwed up... not once but twice) risk of choosing the institute... i would say that is negligible... as long as u confine ur search to premier institutes and talk to 2-3 people in that industry before committing. //I meant u take a chance when u choose the institution //
i would say the risk of choosing the correct stream/profession is much higher…
1) it should match ur aptitude…
2) the market should value it.
and getting a perfect match is nearly impossible…. (i screwed up… not once but twice)

risk of choosing the institute…
i would say that is negligible… as long as u confine ur search to premier institutes and talk to 2-3 people in that industry before committing.

]]> By: sree http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-7519 sree Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:44:07 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-7519 //Education itself is a gamble// I meant u take a chance when u choose the institution (like in my friend's case). //Education itself is a gamble//
I meant u take a chance when u choose the institution (like in my friend’s case).

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-7465 pegasus Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:36:30 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-7465 //starting quality education centers in India is very important.// actually Arjun Singh has already taken a step in this direction.... I am very much hopeful that private univs will pinch in fast enough... the scarcity of quality graduates is the only reason why salaries are rising 15-20% p.a. even though there is not perceivable improvement in productivity. //Education itself is a gamble// i beg to differ... in an eklavyan society u throttle the supply so much that whatever crap that comes out of the pipeline is as valuable as gold. //” I regret it..I did not gain anything ,// I really appreciate his honesty. most people know their CAT, JEE scores were their biggest achievement... but are too scared to acknowledge that. //starting quality education centers in India is very important.//
actually Arjun Singh has already taken a step in this direction…. I am very much hopeful that private univs will pinch in fast enough… the scarcity of quality graduates is the only reason why salaries are rising 15-20% p.a. even though there is not perceivable improvement in productivity.

//Education itself is a gamble//
i beg to differ… in an eklavyan society u throttle the supply so much that whatever crap that comes out of the pipeline is as valuable as gold.

//” I regret it..I did not gain anything ,//
I really appreciate his honesty. most people know their CAT, JEE scores were their biggest achievement… but are too scared to acknowledge that.

]]> By: sree http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-7458 sree Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:14:33 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-7458 Hey Pegasus...Education itself is a gamble..yesterday to answer ur query about Lawyers studying in UK , I called a friend who did his LLB from NALSAR and masters from UK. The first thing he said was " I regret it..I did not gain anything , except that the fad got me a good job here..but masters in India is even pathetic ".He had great words for NALSAR though. As you said , starting quality education centers in India is very important. Hey Pegasus…Education itself is a gamble..yesterday to answer ur query about Lawyers studying in UK , I called a friend who did his LLB from NALSAR and masters from UK. The first thing he said was
” I regret it..I did not gain anything , except that the fad got me a good job here..but masters in India is even pathetic “.He had great words for NALSAR though.
As you said , starting quality education centers in India is very important.

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3563 pegasus Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:15:58 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3563 @ammar you can read all you want about a car, but unless u actually sit behind the wheel... u can never learn how to drive a car. I might be arguing both sides now..... but I guess ur college realizes that and encourages students to take up summer internship in real industry for this very reason. they educate you the basics in the classroom... and teach modern and advanced topics like satellites and mobiles. and have ties with the industry so that students can practice what they have learned @ammar
you can read all you want about a car, but unless u actually sit behind the wheel… u can never learn how to drive a car.

I might be arguing both sides now….. but I guess ur college realizes that and encourages students to take up summer internship in real industry for this very reason.
they educate you the basics in the classroom… and teach modern and advanced topics like satellites and mobiles. and have ties with the industry so that students can practice what they have learned

]]> By: aMmAr http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3522 aMmAr Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:19:13 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3522 @Pegasus i totally agree. Im still a student(Enginerring in Telecom) and about to enter the job market. But what ive learned from ma past internship experience is that we learn a great deal while working. In otherwords work place is an institute itslef. Teachers who teach us major subject liek Mobile and satellite communications not nessecarily knw everythng about setting a mobile base station and im sure GSM companies dont expect teh same from you. As they knw its kinna impossible for a fresh gradute to knw the practical constraints a field engineer faces everyday.faces @Pegasus

i totally agree. Im still a student(Enginerring in Telecom) and about to enter the job market. But what ive learned from ma past internship experience is that we learn a great deal while working. In otherwords work place is an institute itslef.

Teachers who teach us major subject liek Mobile and satellite communications not nessecarily knw everythng about setting a mobile base station and im sure GSM companies dont expect teh same from you. As they knw its kinna impossible for a fresh gradute to knw the practical constraints a field engineer faces everyday.faces

]]> By: sree http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3512 sree Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:27:56 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3512 Has anyone listened to Public Prosecutors in courts ? I think Pegasus has a point ! Has anyone listened to Public Prosecutors in courts ? I think Pegasus has a point !

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3511 pegasus Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:57:02 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3511 quality of education in many of the little known colleges is pathetic... most indian industries are not being able to find graduates who even have the basic understanding of the subjects they graduated it... anyhow i am a bit negative about education system... what do u feel? quality of education in many of the little known colleges is pathetic… most indian industries are not being able to find graduates who even have the basic understanding of the subjects they graduated it… anyhow i am a bit negative about education system…
what do u feel?

]]> By: aMmAr http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3510 aMmAr Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:26:18 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3510 **but its hard also hard to believe that these doctors and engineers are worth anything more than the piece of paper they carry.** @ pegasus huh,wat makes u say dat ?!?! **but its hard also hard to believe that these doctors and engineers are worth anything more than the piece of paper they carry.**

@ pegasus

huh,wat makes u say dat ?!?!

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3504 pegasus Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:40:05 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3504 @ammar... together these 2 countries have 1/3 of the world's population so I have no reason to doubt it. but its hard also hard to believe that these doctors and engineers are worth anything more than the piece of paper they carry. @ammar…
together these 2 countries have 1/3 of the world’s population so I have no reason to doubt it.

but its hard also hard to believe that these doctors and engineers are worth anything more than the piece of paper they carry.

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3206 pegasus Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:25:21 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3206 @sree... 1) I do not know what you are trying to lead towards.. well many of the IITians do go abroad.... but that does not mean that they do not serve the nation... they send back remittances and pay for the development... and lots of guys like me actually stay in india and work for indian companies... take my case for example.... i worked in a startup out of a garage and created a world class product out of it. so as long as an IITian (or any individual) is successful in life, he is doing a service to his nation... and making the people proud. 2) regarding bond: education is a service and not an upkaar.... colleges can charge the right fees for that... but it will be unjust if they impose conditions... as i am saying in this post... make avenues for education to all.. @sree…
1) I do not know what you are trying to lead towards..
well many of the IITians do go abroad…. but that does not mean that they do not serve the nation… they send back remittances and pay for the development…

and lots of guys like me actually stay in india and work for indian companies…
take my case for example…. i worked in a startup out of a garage and created a world class product out of it.
so as long as an IITian (or any individual) is successful in life, he is doing a service to his nation… and making the people proud.

2) regarding bond: education is a service and not an upkaar…. colleges can charge the right fees for that… but it will be unjust if they impose conditions…
as i am saying in this post… make avenues for education to all..

]]> By: sree http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3201 sree Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:02:06 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3201 hmmm I do not know much statistics..but I know that not one of the IITians I know is serving India in any way. All the money spent on educating them ......!! I dont know if there is any way they can be asked to do something for the country atleast for a few years. But our constitution has its own articles. hmmm I do not know much statistics..but I know that not one of the IITians I know is serving India in any way. All the money spent on educating them ……!! I dont know if there is any way they can be asked to do something for the country atleast for a few years. But our constitution has its own articles.

]]> By: aMmAr http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3155 aMmAr Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:20:27 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3155 hmm... i knw 70% is kind a hard to believe figure, i might not be accurate but for sure the actual figure is very close to 70% ------------------------------------------- Tony Blair on his speech to the labour party stated that India n CHina produces more doctors and engineers thn the whole eourope. Do you concur? hmm…

i knw 70% is kind a hard to believe figure, i might not be accurate but for sure the actual figure is very close to 70%
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Tony Blair on his speech to the labour party stated that India n CHina produces more doctors and engineers thn the whole eourope. Do you concur?

]]> By: pegasus http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3154 pegasus Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:48:34 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3154 Defence can never be 70% of the government spending... this is too high even for a country in war. and india's educational spending is also of the same order as Pakistan(even after the fact that there is a separate educational cess on all citizens) But the sad part is that bulk of the spending goes towards educating a select few hundred in higher education... rather spreading the much needed primary education If you want to know about India's economic state... read about the levels of public debt which the government has accumulated. The interest alone on these debt exceeds the Tax collection. Defence can never be 70% of the government spending… this is too high even for a country in war.
and india’s educational spending is also of the same order as Pakistan(even after the fact that there is a separate educational cess on all citizens) But the sad part is that bulk of the spending goes towards educating a select few hundred in higher education… rather spreading the much needed primary education

If you want to know about India’s economic state… read about the levels of public debt which the government has accumulated. The interest alone on these debt exceeds the Tax collection.

]]> By: aMmAr http://enagar.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/comment-page-1/#comment-3153 aMmAr Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:11:07 +0000 http://shocking.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/higher-education/#comment-3153 I can so relate to the similar issues faced by our system of education. The most ironic part abt it is that, hardly 2-3% of the budget money is given to the 'ministry of education' and 70% goes to the defense. P.S. very inshightful !! I can so relate to the similar issues faced by our system of education. The most ironic part abt it is that, hardly 2-3% of the budget money is given to the ‘ministry of education’ and 70% goes to the defense.

P.S. very inshightful !!

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