DLF (real estate developer) reported a net profit of 2145 cr on a revenue of 3651 cr for the quarter ending dec 2007. Sounds impressive! Lets dig a bit deeper.
More than half of this profits came from sale of 1850 cr worth land (assets) to a promoter companyDAL (DLF Asset Ltd) whats even more surprising is that this is not the first time this deal happened. In the past 9 months DLF has sold undeveloped property worth 5,000 cr to DAL.
Why do I think as a bad sign?
1. the asset sale is artificially boosting the profits and is hiding the fact that DLF is not being able to develop and sell property (its core business is failing) It is able to do this massive sale now, but this is not a sustainable business model
2. REMEMBER: DLF is trading at a significant premium to the land bank value. So people are counting on the profits it would have made by developing it. And by not doing this duty, DLF is robbing its share holders their rightful due.
3. Sale of assets to the promoter’s firm never happens at market terms. The prices are affordable and the cashflow/payments happen at their own sweet time. No wonder DAL is yet to pay for the land it acquired several months ago.
4. DAL is a separate firm, and none of the profits made by DAL will ever flow into DLF. As a matter of fact DAL is expected to be listed as REIT (real estate investment trust) in Singapore in the coming months.
As Prax pointed out, DLF has a rotten history and have repeatedly cheated the shareholders. Read Sucheta Dalal’s article on it.
http://in.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=TATASTEEL.NS
now i get it…. yahoo has finally implemented what i had always desired…. clubbing intraday volumes with the price movements.
now all they need to do is provide all the fundamental info like PE, market cap, balance sheets.. and i get all what i need
ICICI has a very rudimentary portfolio manager:
it just lists the no of stocks of a particular company that u have, transaction history, todays price and unrealized gain/loss.
but that is all i want right?
Comment by Ankur Aggarwal — February 1, 2008 @ 3:51 PM
yes and no depends
kotak is similar to icici better cause of more features
Comment by prax — February 1, 2008 @ 4:48 PM
Tata Short Term Bond Fund from
http://www.tatamutualfund.com/buying-our-funds/forms-documents.asp
for the form
Comment by prax — February 1, 2008 @ 4:55 PM
Hmmn. Lots of fundoo stuff.
Bottomline? “Stay out of DLF!”, or is that stupid, with sub-800 prices?
I had bought HDIL @ 1200. Now should I average it?
Comment by rambodoc — February 2, 2008 @ 5:33 AM
@ram…
good to see you again, we were worried about u.
yes, i would stay out of DLF.
about HDIL, its a good company… i had applied to its IPO.
//Now should I average it?//
it usually is a good strategy. but use it in moderation.. sometimes people ed up throwing too much good money after bad.
Comment by Ankur Aggarwal — February 2, 2008 @ 6:09 AM
@prax….
http://finance.livemint.com/Research.asp?pagename=FundaReports&ReportType=Ratio&Ticker=Tata+Steel
tell me what do you think about mint’s charting….
unfortunately i could not find a way to login/make a portfolio… but otherwise this data looks cool
Comment by Ankur Aggarwal — February 4, 2008 @ 11:17 AM